It's Here!! - Light at the End discussion

[Who cares]

font said:

No offense guys, but I think you all need to get over it and yourselves. Bands that sound like they did on their previous album have no new ideas and no hope of being relevant over time. It's not 2001 anymore, or 1998, or 1995. The new album is an appropriate mix of old and new and it tells a really good story, an appropriate one considering the band's history.

As for skipping songs, I've found myself skipping over songs like iron boots (I know, sac religious, just never dug that tune), Pimp, and Revolution AM. Doesn't make those CDs bad.

And stop whining about paying money for a CD. How much money would you have paid to hear Rustic once more just 6 months ago. I probably would have paid 500 bucks, and more if I had it. If you're not willing to pay 12 dollars for a Rustic CD, you were never that much of a fan in the first place.

Good points, but... Evolution of music is a natural process for a band as can be seen with the previous albums and the side projects. I wanted to hear something new and exciting with a little infusion of the old. I'm just saying after so many years away progressing and changing, it's not what I expected to hear. Still good and still very much Rustic Overtones.

Maybe I'm not as big of a fan, I definitely was at one point, but I think being close to the action when the band imploaded, scarred me for life and I'll never see them the way I did 6 years ago. And hell no I wouldn't pay $500 to see them 6 months ago or now. They're not Gods, they're just musicians, very talent ones at that, but I don't make enough money to pay $500 to see anything.

Best of luck to them! I honestly hope they are successful, whatever that means to them, not by anyone elses definition of success.

[thechoice]

how can you say that tony isn't highlighted? he has MONSTER rippage in oxygen and rock like war, and troublesome has incredible drum parts. plus, his drums sound clearer than any album yet. as for jon, he has always been the most understated member of the band but his funky and thunderous fills, especially in black leather bag and rock like war, are great. i have to agree about zoidis though, but did anyone notice there aren't ANY solos on this album? no sax, no guitar, no keys (except happy). i feel llike that was a conscious effort, it keeps the songs tight and short although its a tad disappointing (they even substituted the crazy sax solo in black leather bag for a lyrical bridge). anyway, i think the albumsounds great, it just coulda used more songs.

[Tim Nickerson]

yeah.. in my opinion...tony is the biggest part of the mix,

[kd]

I think this album should be seen similarly to a tentative, gentle step back into an old friendship. Have you ever had that friend who you were unbelievely close with, but lost touch with for years? The prospect of seeing that person again is incredibly exciting and you remember all the good stuff and your head fills with everything you want to talk to them about. But when the actual reunion happens, it's awkward and a little painful at first, and you realize that you're a different person and so are they. However, it works, and soon you're back into the groove that defined your relationship, with the added wisdom of your years apart.

I think this album is a step, as are each of the shows that Rustic adds. I for one am very excited, not only to see them play again (!!!), but also to see how this develops. I think we can all agree that the musicianship of the guys in Rustic is incredible, and we all know how well the individuals combine into one sound. So, maybe this time around the sound will be a little different...or perhaps not.....but either way everyone, band and fans, are lucky for the second chance!

[norm]

Now that I've gotten my hands on it and have listened a few times in a row:

1. I also wish there were more tracks, but only because by the time Happy is over with, I'm like "Damn it's starting over already..." But I'm just greedy. As far as price goes, I have no objections since $12 for a Rustic cd gives more music and enjoyment than 3 or 4 mainstream music cd's.

2. Listening to Carnival as a whole, I don't notice the flat horn note. Listening to it in comparison to the scratchy live 2002 version, I do notice it, but the fact of the matter is that the song has just evolved over time. The new version of Carnival sounds great.

3. The drums sounded really good, but I didn't hear Jon go crazy on the bass like he does on PSC albums. Granted this isn't PSC, Jon's bass work is what makes PSC great IMO and it would have been nice to see that carry over into this album. But, it could be that I just haven't listened closely enough yet.

4. My favorites are Oxygen, Rock Like War, L.A.T.E., and Carnival. I love the strings in those songs, and the ending to RLW is just an incredible addition. I often find myself singing Oxygen and L.A.T.E. at random.

5. The band has matured, which is why this sounds nothing like their previous albums. It's refreshing to feel the emotion in their latest album, and I like the direction they're going in. And when musicians and fans change over time, some love is lost and some love is found. But KD in the post above stated her opinion quite well and there's no way I can say it any better.

[ottergoose]

My copy finally showed up on Wednesday (in Oklahoma).

Overall I like the album. Rock Like War, Troublesome, Hardest Way Possible, Carsick and Light at the End are my favorites. I'd like a little more funk, but the mellow vibe's not terrible either. It's not nearly as shocking as Viva Nueva was.

Dear Mr. President seems a little out of place, but what do I know?

It was money well spent, IMHO.

[Tim Nickerson]

I can't get it outta my head there is a sharp or flat note in carnival. when they play it live, the note does not sound sharp or flat... however in the CD, JUST the trombone plays the note, but live, all the horns play it, and it doesn't sound flat.

[amleeman]

admin said:

yeah.. in my opinion...tony is the biggest part of the mix,

I agree he is Grrrrrrrrrrrrreat! Like the tiger also named Tony.

But as a funny side note, the band did get him a t-shirt one year for xmas that said, "I'm in the band too."

And one night at after a party, he was cleaning up and accidently threw out a tip cup that had well over $50 in it. As a starving college student at the time I was ready to go dumpster diving for it, but he convinced me to let it go.

[Tim Nickerson]

sickest part of the whole cd (someone on here mentioned this earlier) is at the end of Light At The End. Just the horns are playing... but if you listen very closely you can hear them breathing in to hit the last few notes!! totally fucking kick ass rawness!!!!! WOOOOO