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Post by Tim Nickerson on Jan 5, 2009 13:34:45 GMT -5
That's what most hardcore fans grew up on. I was listening to Shish when it originally came out. (I was in 4th or 5th grade). They don't play any oldies anymore at their shows. Just Simple Song or Long Division?? For example, the band "The Disco Biscuits" drops their old songs randomly (not nearly every show). And their fans GO NUTS (hence, keeping them interested in going to more shows, wondering what they'll play next!!!) They really need to start playing a few oldies in their set. Long Division and Simple Song just don't cut it for me. All the fans want old songs, but they never play it. They're starting to remind me of Weezer! I was in NYC for New Years, and saw the Disco Biscuits. Check this show out. For example, the band "The Disco Biscuits" always drops their old songs randomly (not nearly every show). And their fans GO NUTS!!! Check this show out... www.archive.org/details/db2008-12-28.mk4.flac16They played FOUR songs off their first CD. Mindless Dribble > Abraxas > I-Man > Highwire Each songs we're like 18 minutes + all with melodic jams in between... the show completely melted me.. Rustic needs to wake up and start playing some old shit. |
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Post by kevbag on Jan 5, 2009 14:04:22 GMT -5
Totally agree with you on that one. Even though I was actually a junior in high school when Shish came out, I'm right there with you.
My main complaint with bands I see often is repetitive setlists. I think we both lean towards the jam side of things musically, so I appreciate the random nuggets thrown in. It really does energize a crowd. And switching the order of the 20 songs you play from show to show doesn't constitute a new setlist.
I can't imagine they could hate the old songs so much that they just refuse to play them. (That's what I've heard, at least.) There has to be some redeeming musical moment in songs like Spunk Drive, Month and a Half, or Fine they can hang their hats on to make it worth the effort of playing them. Plus, it's real easy to leave out fills and solos you are embarrassed to have had in there back in the day.
All that being said, I'm not holding my breath.
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Post by Nuphus on Jan 5, 2009 14:12:00 GMT -5
My 2 cents
I have heard a few of the older ones; like "Freddy", but they seem to come out in the Maine shows where the guys know the crowds will at least know the songs.
The other real question to this thread. "Do the guys even remember how to play their older songs; especially off of Shish?"
I'm with Kev. Don't hold your breath....
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Post by kevbag on Jan 5, 2009 14:53:24 GMT -5
Having been in a band for 11 years, yes... you still remember them. You may need to dust them off before a gig to keep them tight, but you never forget songs. Especially if they're down on record. And those old songs, even though I don't really care one way or another for them - people still dug them, so we played them. I could always find a part in a particular song that I still enjoyed to make it fun. I'm sure the guys could do the same if they tried.
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Post by onlycrayons on Jan 5, 2009 19:46:29 GMT -5
To quote Gutter from their chat on Facebook a while back:
"We would rather post pictures of our private parts on line than play some of that old material. Its kind of like hooking up with an old girlfriend thats become less desirable. Plus we also forgot how to play alot of the old stuff. We do however try to keep a healthy mix of old and new in our set."
I personally always go to shows hoping to hear something that hasn't been played in a while, but I'm guessing that it doesn't make that much sense for the band.
From a business perspective, they count pretty well count on the dollars from those of us who have been following them for a long time. They need to win over new fans, getting them to buy CDs and more concert tickets. A new fan who hears a set full of Shish and My Dirt material might be disappointed by LATE.
From an artistic perspective, I doubt you want to be known for what you did 15 years ago, no matter how great some people think it was.
I was fired up when they played Freddy at Asylum in 07, but when I looked around it seemed like only a handful of other people even recognized it.
Hey, maybe we'll get lucky and hear some rarities one day (Month and a Half anyone?) That hope is enough to keep me coming back.
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Post by notreally on Jan 5, 2009 20:53:52 GMT -5
Out of the few shows I've been to, I though that the patio show had the best mix. As far as I remember, they covered stuff from every album. I went to a show a couple weeks ago at the Big Easy and they didn't even play the standard C'mon, let alone something like Pop Trash or Darryl.
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Post by willwood on Jan 6, 2009 11:17:00 GMT -5
Haha, that's a great quote about playing older stuff.
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Post by mpb on Jan 6, 2009 12:10:48 GMT -5
From a business perspective, they count pretty well count on the dollars from those of us who have been following them for a long time. They need to win over new fans, getting them to buy CDs and more concert tickets. A new fan who hears a set full of Shish and My Dirt material might be disappointed by LATE. Exactly. While I want to hear old stuff, they aren't trying to market it to new people. Didn't Tony say in the LD re-release that they didn't even consider Shish to be Rustic? When they play in Maine they typically play some oldies they wouldn't play elsewhere. They played Pop Trash in Boston in November (albeit without the solo). With that being said I'm dying to hear Month and a Half |
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Post by kanibellagutter on Jan 7, 2009 12:50:24 GMT -5
Hey everybody, this is Dave's 2 year old daughter Kani. I happen to have overheard Rustic working in more older material. There is a lot of material for Nigel to rehearse and they have been concentrating a lot on the new record. Sorry some of you didn't like the sound quality on the bonus tracks on rooms. They hoped in releasing "demos" that people would realize that they were only demos and appreciate them for the time capsule that they served as. Promise the new shit sounds really tight. Happy new year. googoogaga Kani
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Post by Rachel on Jan 7, 2009 23:31:10 GMT -5
I, too, would love to hear older stuff. However, since Dave said at the last Northern Lights show: "You probably know the words better then I do, I have to look my old lyrics up on the internet.".. or something similar, I doubt we'll hear much of it. And go figure, Pop Trash was played at that very show! I do understand and respect their multitude of reasons for NOT playing them. Thanks for posting, Kani.  |
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Post by Tim Nickerson on Jan 14, 2009 3:18:15 GMT -5
Hey everybody, this is Dave's 2 year old daughter Kani. I happen to have overheard Rustic working in more older material. There is a lot of material for Nigel to rehearse and they have been concentrating a lot on the new record. Sorry some of you didn't like the sound quality on the bonus tracks on rooms. They hoped in releasing "demos" that people would realize that they were only demos and appreciate them for the time capsule that they served as. Promise the new shit sounds really tight. Happy new year. googoogaga Kani Awesome!! |
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